Ssto challenge

@Tweedle_Aerospace ok, but for now, i am not doing hop prototypes

@Chtite451SR2 but if you are making hop prototypes then I have plenty of programs for you. Above about 20,000 requires a boostback at apogee to land. And any droneship hops require a boostback and small gravity turn.

@Tweedle_Aerospace ok
then i could be in cameras pretty much the whole time lol

@Chtite451SR2 yep. The launch and landing are typically on two different devices. My landing activates when a interstate activates but can be changed for activation groups. Although it can’t land from orbit. It is oddly different. But I am working on a deorbit program.

@Tweedle_Aerospace i was considering making some programs for it, but if i wanted to go to other planets for example, so i though, what if i put launch and landing program seperate,
does the vizzy you made do that?
and tnx for the offer too ;)

@Chtite451SR2 you should consider using a program. You could use my latest one (not published) if you want. It can land on Pad A to make recovery easier.

because i didnt release it (yet), but it does do commercial crew and cargo launches on request

@Tweedle_Aerospace you didnt, its good,
i do agree flower-1 would be the master lol
because it has 100% success rate (so far...), im good at piloting it (lol), its an SSTO that doesnt just use a fairing, it uses cargo bays (i got the idea from another users craft), and lands right on a drone ship, and i have a forum on this too, considering to do google form for this
next up for flower-1: crawler so it can launch somewhere, and then move to launch area, and liftoff

@Chtite451SR2 sorry I hope I didn’t upset you. Flower-1 though sounds exciting. You will probably be in dominance for reusability for a while with that.

@Tweedle_Aerospace yes, ik...
but flower-1 doesnt use extra fuel added by XML, yet it can fly around 80,000kg to orbit XD
even cylero, and land on landing area, of course (perseverance may not be quite usable in a career/campaign mode, but flower-1 was partially meant for when it comes, so its easy and cheap to launch crafts [reason for me saying this is because i actually have something better than perseverance]

@Chtite451SR2 your SSTO is preserverance would be highly inefficient except it weighs negative 1 trillion kilograms. Which helps a lot.

@NebulaSpaceAgency ah... i see...
SSTO's can be hard to build...

@Chtite451SR2 i have a bad history with SSTO’s so i easily assume, my bad

@NebulaSpaceAgency not exactly true tbh
look at my flower-1 (its a commercial SSTO of mine)
it doesnt use much fuel in a LDO mission, comes back with more than 70% fuel left XD
and is very useful,
perseverance SSTO is an exploration craft (which is useful) sooo...

you do know SSTO’s are hyper-inefficient and most of the time useless, unless you’re going for style points