DOBB F-T08 Fighter/Trainer. Vizzy Auto target and fire

@017b @sentinelaerospace a steady and not really fast . But will out turn, and can stay behind. It can go slower , turn shaper , and it's Missiles are going to kill it's target Auto

I would put this against KELL'S STINGRAY... I bet this can hold up... And take it out .. and this does look good

@FrostyFrag it takes more skill to build with out mass tinkering than with.. I do some mass editing sometimes rarely.. I try not to.. and I hate seeing space ships with. -778564478877 dry mass.. for example .. like of course a giant ship that weighs nothing would fly... Like I said .. I think it's little cheating because of un ability to do otherwise

@FrostyFrag I call it cheating.. you can make a house fly if you tinker mass to the size of a cat for example.. if no mass tinkering.. I know the design will work in real life

@XionmassResearchDevt ok but why no mass tinkering

@FrostyFrag I have an idea to make it VTOL and no mass tinkering or editing. .. which means electric motor and 4 or 7 small props . Tucked inside behind cockpit.. but that's a difficult challenge.. it will take some time to gather right

@FrostyFrag ya they not mine nor id the vizzy ... It's from Vizzy Auto Turret

Just tried the missle its works amazingly

@XionmassResearchDevt idk about not messing with mass on VTOL engines, but most probably don't care if I messed with VTOL. Engine mass

@FrostyFrag with this jet? . Sure could

Love it could u make a vtol one