@RichGWall For me the heading direction is the problem. In Juno I just start to East if Kourou is approx. in Moon orbital plane, o.k., nice., but not good. MechJeb in KSP1 simply set's you in perfect orbit even when the launchposition is not in the target plane. If it can be in the plane it waits up to 24h and then starts. If not, it waits until the conditions are optimal, then starts and changes the inclination during ascend... it's just an amazing tool this mod.
@RichGWall For your Saturn-V experiment you could possibly use the marvelous one from Mr.Spock @mrspock15 :
https://www.simplerockets.com/c/x41zff/RSS-Saturn-V-Apollo
( I think you have already discovered, since you upvoted there :-) )
Well, KSP2... if they had sold the Early Access with 20$ instead of 50$ nobody would have complained... so it has a nice soundtrack, graphics and sound, some nice green cute frog creature animations, and a lot of realy ugly bug problems and most of all: No RSS mod.
And everything looks somehow like plastic, but that is certainly a matter of taste
@RichGWall KSP2 is not worth mentioned. KSP1 with RSS and RO mods is great. If you try it, use CKAN, to manage your mods. It's all very comfortable. But KSP takes much longer to load and needs much more hardware ressources than Juno. Juno is much more intuitive and simply does most things right. So it is easy as cake to use my PS4 controller in Juno but in KSP... buuuh. Construction in Juno is nice because of the scalablity ansatz. You can get this in KSP too but only with mods. So KSP has to be modded to become nice and Juno is nice from the beginning... graphics is surely better in modded KSP, especially Moon looks really beautiful with RSS mod.
For me I prefer Juno now. KSP1 I started for 2 month the first time a view hours ago. The forum is nice here I think. The official KSP forum has nice people as well but it is very strongly monitored by moderators.
@RichGWall I just checked "Principia" with RSS in KSP1. First impression is very good, a lot of smoke from my computer indicates a lot of calculations btw... Axial tilt of Earth seams to be o.k., send my Artemis I rocket to equatorial orbit and looked at the shadow line on Earth, definitely seasons there. Then I looked at the Moon orbital plane... I am not sure, I tried to compare it to the ecliptic (go behind the Earth and look in direction to the Sun hidden by Earth, then plot the Moon orbit...). Just with my eye I would say that it is about 20 degrees, and this would be wrong, because it should be 5 degrees (due to Wiki). But my eyes are not so good anymore. I am not at the Moon yet, so no info about the axial tilt of the Moon. I am not sure if I want to spent this time, perhaps I find some information in the internet. I would prefer Juno. In Juno the axial tilt of the Moon is o.k. I think. At Southpole the sun is very low on the horizon and in Shackleton there is only light because of grafical bugs I think.
@RichGWall Yes, perhaps I overreacted a little bit :-) So I let the baby in the water, but I wanted to check this principia mod anyway. And I will check if RSS Earth in KSP1 has axial tilt, I am just not quite sure anymore...
@RichGWall Great analysis by you, thank you very much ! So KSC is in Moon orbital plane once every 6years, that is completly new for me and I am happy to learn this! Thank you. Tom
@RichGWall I checked this, you are right. That's much worse than the ridiculous fuel cells in Juno... I am speechless. Perhaps it is better to go back to KSP1 with this "Principia" mod. I will think about it. I like well choosen simplifications, like for Moon mission only taking Sun (main effect on Moon, ~2/3), Earth, Moon and vehicle into consideration, neglecting influence of Jupiter and Saturn. Simulation will run smooth and most effects are realistic enough for me. But this is too much simplification.
@RichGWall OH No!!! How could I missed this. So no axial tilt on Earth... that's incredibly bad ! Even worse than Moon without tilt. Even worse than in KSP!!!
I am massively dissapointed. How could I miss this ?
@RichGWall If you start from European space center (Guiana Space Centre near Kourou) you can wait until it is in the Moon orbital plane and then start directly into that plane... just start east then. I think that has something to do with the latitude of Kourou and the Moon orbit inclination beeing nearly the same, but I am not sure.
Starting from Canaveral is much more complicated. I have huge problems of imagination because I do not even know if Florida ever crosses the Moon orbital plane... all my experience here stems from KSP1, mod RSS/RO, and here the Moon orbit and axial tilt is fully wrong because of stupid KSP programming (one reason why I switched to Juno btw., between others). But if you know more, please let me know.
According to this: https://history.nasa.gov/afj/launchwindow/lw1.html
there is the possibility to start from Canavaral even with an optimal east direction. You just have to wait, I don't know how long.
In Juno we have some orbit information, for the Moon and the launched vehicle. Perhaps we can use it for getting the optimum launch time somehow.
@AWholeTurkey Did you finish the Air Races ? That's most important as far as I remember. The "commercial pilot" mission, the "lunar rover" mission are necessary, too. You find vehicel to solve all those in my craft list. That should work. Have fun !
Perhaps the community can help to bring you back on track. Perhaps try some tricky Vizzy programming... I am currently working on a flexible ascent program that can lift all my rockets automatically... something like that, a new project, might help. I am a little bit dissapointed by KSP(2!) / the forum there, by the way, so that reminds me of what you wrote here. Sorry for my bad english, have a good time! Tom.
@NASASPACEINDUSTRIES55
https://www.simplerockets.com/Forums/View/178606/Post-Formatting-Guide
For images I think one has to use discord ... I don't know how to upload images.
@CosmosMan, @IndianAerospaceIndustry
Do they plan to land inside the Shackleton, do you know ? Soutpole is a little bit outside, on the crater slope... very interessting ! Hope this time it will be a success.
Very good! I am very interessted in the moon, too. Just finished a big Shackleton mission with @Hyperpatch RSS and my "Friedensbringer" series. Would be glad to see how you missions develop! Cheers! Tom.
@AngryScientist Since we live in the free part of the world, I accept your opinion. However, I personally think it is sweeping. Christianity, in particular, has very humanitarian and peaceful principles, even though, like everywhere else in the world, there is good and evil. And I don't know if you, like me, are really a scientist. But as a physicist, I can tell you that in science there are no explanations for the wonders of this world, only descriptions of how they happen. Fundamental things, like the question, why there is gravity at all, you cannot answer. Many people therefore look for sense and halt in the religions. There is/was a lot of good here, but also a lot of bad, like the inquisition, the crusades, as well as the various bad things, which we know from the other religions/sects. Amen ;-)
@AngryScientist Hehe, that is fucking funny :-D But I can assure you: I am not fucking stupid ( I think, too many years at university for this maybe). So I wish you a fucking good day ! And don't let hate into your heart, even for people you don't like, and try to avoid belittling people because of their faith. My son :)
@AngryScientist Oh, I am not native english, sorry, I didn't know there are good and bad F* - words. So I can use: "You are fucking unlogic in your argumentation for a so called scientist" for example, and this is still good ? Will not lead to ban from forum ?
@CosmosMan Did you ever looked into the sky beeing in desert ? I think beeing in space it's even better. If you focus on bright surfaces (like the moon) that should be massively darkened. That would be great I think.
YES!!!
1.6 years agoTante Ju ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JunkersJu52 )
+1 1.6 years agoDo Saturn C-8 "Nova"
1.6 years agohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova(rocket)#/media/File:NovaRocket.jpg
@RichGWall @Wangzc
+1 1.6 years agohttps://www.simplerockets.com/c/3m43x7/Apollo11SaturnV
So nice
@RichGWall For me the heading direction is the problem. In Juno I just start to East if Kourou is approx. in Moon orbital plane, o.k., nice., but not good. MechJeb in KSP1 simply set's you in perfect orbit even when the launchposition is not in the target plane. If it can be in the plane it waits up to 24h and then starts. If not, it waits until the conditions are optimal, then starts and changes the inclination during ascend... it's just an amazing tool this mod.
1.6 years ago@RichGWall For your Saturn-V experiment you could possibly use the marvelous one from Mr.Spock @mrspock15 :
1.6 years agohttps://www.simplerockets.com/c/x41zff/RSS-Saturn-V-Apollo
( I think you have already discovered, since you upvoted there :-) )
Well, KSP2... if they had sold the Early Access with 20$ instead of 50$ nobody would have complained... so it has a nice soundtrack, graphics and sound, some nice green cute frog creature animations, and a lot of realy ugly bug problems and most of all: No RSS mod.
1.6 years agoAnd everything looks somehow like plastic, but that is certainly a matter of taste
@RichGWall KSP2 is not worth mentioned. KSP1 with RSS and RO mods is great. If you try it, use CKAN, to manage your mods. It's all very comfortable. But KSP takes much longer to load and needs much more hardware ressources than Juno. Juno is much more intuitive and simply does most things right. So it is easy as cake to use my PS4 controller in Juno but in KSP... buuuh. Construction in Juno is nice because of the scalablity ansatz. You can get this in KSP too but only with mods. So KSP has to be modded to become nice and Juno is nice from the beginning... graphics is surely better in modded KSP, especially Moon looks really beautiful with RSS mod.
1.6 years agoFor me I prefer Juno now. KSP1 I started for 2 month the first time a view hours ago. The forum is nice here I think. The official KSP forum has nice people as well but it is very strongly monitored by moderators.
@RichGWall I just checked "Principia" with RSS in KSP1. First impression is very good, a lot of smoke from my computer indicates a lot of calculations btw... Axial tilt of Earth seams to be o.k., send my Artemis I rocket to equatorial orbit and looked at the shadow line on Earth, definitely seasons there. Then I looked at the Moon orbital plane... I am not sure, I tried to compare it to the ecliptic (go behind the Earth and look in direction to the Sun hidden by Earth, then plot the Moon orbit...). Just with my eye I would say that it is about 20 degrees, and this would be wrong, because it should be 5 degrees (due to Wiki). But my eyes are not so good anymore. I am not at the Moon yet, so no info about the axial tilt of the Moon. I am not sure if I want to spent this time, perhaps I find some information in the internet. I would prefer Juno. In Juno the axial tilt of the Moon is o.k. I think. At Southpole the sun is very low on the horizon and in Shackleton there is only light because of grafical bugs I think.
1.6 years ago@RichGWall Yes, perhaps I overreacted a little bit :-) So I let the baby in the water, but I wanted to check this principia mod anyway. And I will check if RSS Earth in KSP1 has axial tilt, I am just not quite sure anymore...
1.6 years ago@RichGWall Great analysis by you, thank you very much ! So KSC is in Moon orbital plane once every 6years, that is completly new for me and I am happy to learn this! Thank you. Tom
+1 1.6 years ago@RichGWall I checked this, you are right. That's much worse than the ridiculous fuel cells in Juno... I am speechless. Perhaps it is better to go back to KSP1 with this "Principia" mod. I will think about it. I like well choosen simplifications, like for Moon mission only taking Sun (main effect on Moon, ~2/3), Earth, Moon and vehicle into consideration, neglecting influence of Jupiter and Saturn. Simulation will run smooth and most effects are realistic enough for me. But this is too much simplification.
1.6 years ago@RichGWall OH No!!! How could I missed this. So no axial tilt on Earth... that's incredibly bad ! Even worse than Moon without tilt. Even worse than in KSP!!!
1.6 years agoI am massively dissapointed. How could I miss this ?
I am your biggest fan :-) Go 4 Peace, go ! Ass1 is also good name.
1.6 years ago@RichGWall If you start from European space center (Guiana Space Centre near Kourou) you can wait until it is in the Moon orbital plane and then start directly into that plane... just start east then. I think that has something to do with the latitude of Kourou and the Moon orbit inclination beeing nearly the same, but I am not sure.
1.7 years agoStarting from Canaveral is much more complicated. I have huge problems of imagination because I do not even know if Florida ever crosses the Moon orbital plane... all my experience here stems from KSP1, mod RSS/RO, and here the Moon orbit and axial tilt is fully wrong because of stupid KSP programming (one reason why I switched to Juno btw., between others). But if you know more, please let me know.
According to this: https://history.nasa.gov/afj/launchwindow/lw1.html
there is the possibility to start from Canavaral even with an optimal east direction. You just have to wait, I don't know how long.
In Juno we have some orbit information, for the Moon and the launched vehicle. Perhaps we can use it for getting the optimum launch time somehow.
@EpsilonSpaceOrganization "4 Peace" :-D Great! Thank you !
1.7 years ago@AWholeTurkey Did you finish the Air Races ? That's most important as far as I remember. The "commercial pilot" mission, the "lunar rover" mission are necessary, too. You find vehicel to solve all those in my craft list. That should work. Have fun !
1.7 years ago@racc Nice :-)
1.7 years agoAs I have been told recently: there is no. Perhaps. We don't now, because we can't seen so far... Hubble constant, you know...
+1 1.7 years agoUii! Looke nice!
+1 1.7 years agoThe current indian moon mission ? With nice video for popcorn session :-)
+1 1.7 years agoPerhaps the community can help to bring you back on track. Perhaps try some tricky Vizzy programming... I am currently working on a flexible ascent program that can lift all my rockets automatically... something like that, a new project, might help. I am a little bit dissapointed by KSP(2!) / the forum there, by the way, so that reminds me of what you wrote here. Sorry for my bad english, have a good time! Tom.
1.7 years agoInteresting, thanks ! Perhaps I will try it out.
+1 1.7 years ago@CosmosMan Great, thank you! But that is of course not southpole... I'll check, perhaps Tycho.... no, far more south... great.
+1 1.7 years agoWelcome back! Have a good time.
1.7 years ago@SmarsoAero Nice!
1.7 years ago@CosmosMan Great! Would you share ?
1.7 years ago@Zenithspeed Thank you!
1.7 years ago@NASASPACEINDUSTRIES55
1.7 years agohttps://www.simplerockets.com/Forums/View/178606/Post-Formatting-Guide
For images I think one has to use discord ... I don't know how to upload images.
@CosmosMan, @IndianAerospaceIndustry
+1 1.7 years agoDo they plan to land inside the Shackleton, do you know ? Soutpole is a little bit outside, on the crater slope... very interessting ! Hope this time it will be a success.
@NASASPACEINDUSTRIES55 I really don't know... perhaps @Pedro can help ?
1.7 years agoGreat :-)
1.7 years agoVery good! I am very interessted in the moon, too. Just finished a big Shackleton mission with @Hyperpatch RSS and my "Friedensbringer" series. Would be glad to see how you missions develop! Cheers! Tom.
1.7 years agoYeah !
1.7 years agoCan't wait :-)
1.7 years ago@NickForrest I am not here to argue and therefore will not answer further. I wish you a good time !
+1 1.7 years ago@NickForrest Your first post ? Well...
1.7 years ago@InfinityTechnology Congratulation !
1.7 years agoFor me the same. Perhaps you need a lot of reputation before they let you ;-)
1.7 years ago@AngryScientist Since we live in the free part of the world, I accept your opinion. However, I personally think it is sweeping. Christianity, in particular, has very humanitarian and peaceful principles, even though, like everywhere else in the world, there is good and evil. And I don't know if you, like me, are really a scientist. But as a physicist, I can tell you that in science there are no explanations for the wonders of this world, only descriptions of how they happen. Fundamental things, like the question, why there is gravity at all, you cannot answer. Many people therefore look for sense and halt in the religions. There is/was a lot of good here, but also a lot of bad, like the inquisition, the crusades, as well as the various bad things, which we know from the other religions/sects. Amen ;-)
1.7 years ago@AngryScientist By the way: what does "pejorative" mean ? DeepL doesn't know it.... I am impressed...
+1 1.7 years ago@AngryScientist Hehe, that is fucking funny :-D But I can assure you: I am not fucking stupid ( I think, too many years at university for this maybe). So I wish you a fucking good day ! And don't let hate into your heart, even for people you don't like, and try to avoid belittling people because of their faith. My son :)
1.7 years ago@AngryScientist Oh, I am not native english, sorry, I didn't know there are good and bad F* - words. So I can use: "You are fucking unlogic in your argumentation for a so called scientist" for example, and this is still good ? Will not lead to ban from forum ?
+1 1.7 years agoHas this something to do with Juno ? Whatever this ARG stuff is, I don't like it (or should I ?). I am confused...
1.7 years ago@EpsilonSpaceOrganization Why? Just removing all (un-)neccessary parts ;-)
1.7 years agoI'm sorry, but probably I am too old to know an "ARG". What is this btw ? Celebrate youth!
1.7 years ago@CosmosMan Did you ever looked into the sky beeing in desert ? I think beeing in space it's even better. If you focus on bright surfaces (like the moon) that should be massively darkened. That would be great I think.
+1 1.7 years ago@CosmosMan Did you ever looked into the sky beeing in desert ? I think beeing in space it's even better.
+1 1.7 years agoRemoving all the f* - words: I fully agree with you !
1.7 years agoIs this the super AI that will enslave us all ? ... Greetings!
1.7 years ago